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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:23 pm

the FUNNY thing to me is this...there is mention of "mincecore" on the page/board; yet straight from Jan/AGx "mincecore" means: anarchist GRINDCORE against racism, sexism, & homophobia


racism/sexixm/homophobia = weak...it's just NOT shocking...
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:25 pm

...and I only say this because Jan is a great hero, friend, & DIY grindcore mastermind...
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:53 am

Looks like once again someone wants to mention mince! Mincecore is whatever is raw , primitive and DIY! Fuck all PC Vegan Elitist Grinders who follow Agathocles out dated message!(no disrespect to Agathocles but that elitist mincegrind mentality that they started in 88 is not what we here at histo are about!)....and that mentality is what is ruining this scene today! Most PC headcases start more trouble then anyone with their bullshit about racism, homophobia and so called equality! We are Cultural Terrorists who plant seeds off truth in your mind in hopes of one day awakening you to reality! I'm looking at a homeless man right now going through trash trying to feed his dog.....that is troubling to me cause I can't change things for him! You think this man cares about PC politics? On a daily basis I see the misunderstanding of what is Grind and what is Mince and it sickens me! Racism, Homophobia or Sexism does and doesn't matter to us in music because we are not blind to life!.....we know what's really going on in this world. I find it funny how all these Anarchist wanna make political mince or grind and never get out there and get dirty in the streets with a cocktail and make some change - Lets sit back and preach! Grind Stigmas are dumb!!!!!! Grind or Mince...in the end does it fucking matter anymore? Bands like Magrudergrind, Misery Index and Relapse Records have made Grind into a Commercial Entity that allows mince and grinders to be tarnished!......but us Mincers are taking back the grind scene in a larger number then ever! I'm Half Polish and Irish(not the mutt English kind) and my partner is Greek....so if anyone what's to talk to us about being racist........yeah! Death to false punks and rich grinders! Anymore threads like this will be deleted! How about making a thread about historical accuracy and see how dumb most of these people are when it comes to their own history! MANKURTS will roam forever! -Joe Esmerilador
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:59 am

Joe you don't know how to delete posts. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 am



whatcha think of this little bitch-niggah?
Funny story, I pretended to be a f/15 and he is a m/13.. he sent me this sexy picture.. !!
LOL Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:52 am

Oh, i forgot to say something about the discussion that break loose here recently

I personally and politically think that racism is lame and maybe people should not think we are racist on the forum.. but I do think that we should have the right for our freedom of speech to use these jokes and some HUMOUR. even if you think the humour is lame, you can just get the fuck out of the thread. I hang out with alots of coloured people and have alot of friends all over the world, even though the majority of my friends are not white, I still love racism/holocaust/etc jokes because I just have a bizarre scence of humour.. and my black friends respect that and they have the same humour.. If everyone just accepts eachother and realize the fact that we are NOT racists, we could just laugh and have a good time to all the jokes. Let's not be some politically correct pussy here, lets just enjoy the grind, beer and life.. humour is just humour, everyone does not have the same kind of humour, but let's just not forget that everyone is as much human as anyone else
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:18 am

There's good people and there's shitty people in all races but mostly people I could do without. So what's so wrong about cracking a few jokes? Sexism? Well, that's not exactly an issue I have to worry about. So it's hard for me to give a rat's ass but I will say there are women who are worth my respect because they have proven themselves worthy of my respect. There's also women who aren't worth shit except for a lay. Homophobia? I'm not afraid of gays, I just don't like them. Quit making everything a "phobia." Homosexuality is a birth defect, deal with it. All homos I have had the misfortune of meeting, are generally very weak and annoying people. Maybe, that's a symptom of their illness? I don't know, I don't really care.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:32 am

its possible to be humorous without turning to overt racism. "huh huh niggers hurf durf". i can go down the street and find some retard who thinks racism is fucking hilarious and loves jesus and has never heard of grind. its just so MUNDANE. and you DONT have a pass just cause you know some black dudes.

I dont really think this should even become a question of ethics. i think most here could care less what anyone else believes personally. its whether you actually feel comfortable posting meathead nigger jokes in front of a lot of people you dont know. i heard shit like that from the jock-brahs all thru highschool and if being different from them means not espousing unsubstantiated racist shit, then so be it. not to mention, on a board that is affiliated with a legit label, who dont want people turned off by a bunch of fucking attention-starved idiots. i, for one, would feel like a dumb asshole. stop acting like this is a freedom of speech issue or "just playing" when its just that the gayest thread yet totally backfired.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:40 am

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whatcha think of this little bitch-niggah?
Funny story, I pretended to be a f/15 and he is a m/13.. he sent me this sexy picture.. !!
LOL Very Happy

why are you posing online as a fifteen year old girl?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:46 am

Since when did fag-rights and feminism go hand in hand with extreme underground music?! I disregard all of those lame hardcore/punk/brocore/whatever the fuck bands. The music is suppose to be violent. Feminism, gay rights and whining about racism shouldn't even be an option.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:47 am

how does racist jokes make music any more violent?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:49 am

GrinchX wrote:
how does racist jokes make music any more violent?

It doesn't but praising tolerance and peace should not go hand in hand with the music.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:51 am

youre now making points which are not cogent to the original discussion. no one has praised tolerance or peace. look at who you are talking to. i dont need to reinforce my reputation, or music, with racist "kidding", because it stands strong on its own. as should the scene as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:53 am

I was mainly referring to this quote.

410-GRINDCORE-KING wrote:
racism/sexixm/homophobia = weak
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:36 am

And just to throw this out there we are not some PC label! Everyone has a right to free speech on this forum but for the people who come here one time and one time only get the impression that Histo is just a a Racist, Sexist ,Homophobic label!...and it's that ignorance that they have that makes the world shit! but people also need to understand that if you post something in the forum and people respond back to you bitching about what you posted......don't come to Histo telling us what you think about our label based off of another users posts that are not ours!

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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:48 am

http://k-k-k.com/ affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:36 am

Okay, I can understand that the racist shit could turn off a lot of people from the label. but is fag bashing at least okay here?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:22 pm

okay (this is on-par with explaing grindcore to people on the Profane Existence board)

I was not bashing yr label (I know Bill thru Timpaler; if Bill is the dude I have met and got along with on SEVERAL occasions)...
I do not knock DIY labels OF ANY KIND (except overty malicious ones...which I feel being "offensive" is not...)


Mince is not, nor will it ever be "just raw"...(ie: Unholy Grave are RAW as fuck...but not mince...)
It is not...never has been...(and it is 1985, not 1988 when AGx started)


YES...I am a grindcore elitist (but I am NOT pretentious by any means...I only care about the worldwide grindcore family...#1...ask heads that have talked to me)...I have been out and about promoting gXc in Bmore longer then I have been alive...and honestly...I have never seen more then 4-10 people per show....(as I try to do full-on grindcore (old-school, trure grindCORE...not gore/porn)...most heads that say they are into gXc...were never around those shows 15 years ago...sorry...that is just truth NOT being a dick...


AND YES...I was on the streets getting pushed and prodded and rounded up by cops...but in all honesty...ALL my years of that were for nothing...anarchism in it true modern philosophical thesis WILL NEVER EXIST...power, greed, and ignorance thwart that...


I too am a mutt of Polish and Irish and English/Welsh decent...I claim not a single race as my own...


...but if we go back and pull out our early Napalm Death (yes...even their peace-punk era) and Terrorizer/Nausea/Majesty and Demisor (since 87) and AGx (and even Sore Throat) records...just READ THE LYRICS...even Carcass started as a play on the fact that they were vegans...


I was/am in the process of out-lining and maybe writing a book about TRUE DIY GRINDCORE...not like that cheap read "Chosing Death"....bands like AGx and Demisor are not even HINTED at...Nik Napalm even agreed that GRINDCORE has taken a wrong turn somewhere...


I am NOT PC...my punk days are over...my anarchist dreams are DEAD as DEAD can get...


My point is this: gore/porn/cyber are NOT the same as GRINDCORE...not at all...lyrical content...tunings...artwork...etc.


I run a GRINDCORE label...been doing so since '03...no one else was in this town to even trade with or help set up shows for touring bands (aside from other band members)...and my Bday shows were always primarily grindcore AND open to everyone...and attended by grinders, PC, non-PC, metal, crust, punks, etc...as long as people understand the line between grindcore/noisecore VS. gore/porn/cyber/gorenoise...


I have/will put out 4 AGx releases...Jan is a very serious person about his lyrics and their meaning...the full understanding of what that AMAZING band has done (and they are FAR from "out-dated")...same goes for Fahmey & Demisor...


True DIY oldschool grindcore & mincecore & noisecore (and even the gore/porn/etc extreme music) are still SAME AS THEY EVER WERE...the ONLY form of music that has sustained it's underground status...the ONLY form of music...


Tape/Cdr/EP/Razz trading locally, nationally, & especially internationally are what keep us going...


My point in my original statement was only to state a FACT about the meaning of "mincecore" and what it STILL means...not an outdated moniker...


Also I will not "eat shit"...ha ha ha!! that's rich....MAGRUDERGRIND are STILL a 100% DIY band that have found a way to fuck people over from the inside (I know them more then personally and I do a lot of their artwork)...their EXTENSIVE tours are funded by them and only them...I have been on 3 of them...I have sold the merch and skimped by city-to-city...MI and Relapse and Torture Garden all use "grindcore" as a way to sell to people like us that despise, disrespect, and directly control underground "grind"....(no matter if I like or agree w/ the "offensive" side or not...I will still trade with another DIY label to keep grindcore going FOREVER...to keep it networked FOREVER...)


Trust me, Joe, i am not bashing you, nor Bill, nor Histo...I was just correcting a historically and relevant fact about a term that is too loosely used...


OUR main enemies are the aforementioned labels/bands...ESPECIALLY Relapse and Torture Garden Picture Company...


Stay sick. Stay blasting. All the best with Histo...I already talked to Bill about getting him some AGx and other releases...


-clint. DxAxSx: GRINDING SINCE '03


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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:40 pm

...and by "GRINDCORE ELITIST"...I mean this musick is above all others...it is a MAIN focus in my life (aside from my fiancee and my personal health and being really broke)...


Fuck rich grinders and dirtball punx...(neither need exist...much less in our SMALL yet worldwide family)

Also don't forget a HUGE "FUCK OFF!!!" to MDF for it's recent years of gaining the mega $$$$ off of DIY bands that appear on the bill....


(and my POLISH & IRISH came straight from a boat...where the Irish culminated with POOR Southern English/Welsh mutts...so I am not Johnny Wasp True Blood...)


come to Bmore grindcore shows when I have them...ironning differences and getting Bmore's grinders together is a fucking MUST!
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:57 pm

GrinchX wrote:
Pelle wrote:

whatcha think of this little bitch-niggah?
Funny story, I pretended to be a f/15 and he is a m/13.. he sent me this sexy picture.. !!
LOL Very Happy

why are you posing online as a fifteen year old girl?

Hahaha, good question. I just enjoy to mess with people and make people do dump stuff / post stupid pictures. I was just very bored this weekend so I went to see how far I could get by doing that
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:05 pm

Everyone loves nazi-niggers!
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:06 pm

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!


..too bad he didnt have 88 HP (hh) löl Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:08 pm

and some google pics, haha





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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:10 pm

By the way.. I think the moderator should add "(no serious racism here!)" to the thread name so people dont think we are hating other races for real.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets be Racist!   Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:40 am

Nazi Porn haha
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